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  1. Choisir le bon embout de tournevis, Identification: étape 1, image 1 de 2 Choisir le bon embout de tournevis, Identification: étape 1, image 2 de 2
    • Les embouts de vis de nos kits d'embouts iFixit ont des préfixes gravés qui indiquent le type de tête. Ces préfixes sont généralement suivis d'un nombre qui indique la taille de la vis. Par exemple :

    • PH2 - (Phillips #2) Un gros embout cruciforme.

    • PH0 - (Phillips #0) Un embout cruciforme moyen.

    • PH000 - (Phillips #000) Un petit embout cruciforme.

    • Choisissez la taille de l'embout qui remplit entièrement la tête de vis. Un embout trop grand ou trop petit ne se positionnera pas correctement et vous risquez d'abîmer voire casser la tête de la vis.

  2. Choisir le bon embout de tournevis: étape 2, image 1 de 2 Choisir le bon embout de tournevis: étape 2, image 2 de 2
    • Si vous vous creusez la tête pour identifier les pièces de votre trousse à outils, n'hésitez pas à utiliser cette liste de référence.

    • La forme physique de chaque embout est suivie de son nom propre.

    • Taille des embouts.

    • Si aucun préfixe n'est gravé sur votre embout, indiquez simplement le nom propre complet et la taille de votre embout quand vous rédigez un tutoriel. (Par exemple : "Utilisez un embout à tête plate de 1,5 mm pour retirer les deux vis de 5 mm du boîtier.")

  3. Choisir le bon embout de tournevis, PH ou JIS: étape 3, image 1 de 2 Choisir le bon embout de tournevis, PH ou JIS: étape 3, image 2 de 2
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    • Les embouts avec le préfixe "J" et "PH" sont souvent considérés comme étant le même embout. Ne vous laissez pas tromper par leur apparence similaire, ils sont très différents.

    • Les vis cruciforme (PH) sont conçues pour l'effet de ripage (cam-out) si un couple de serrage trop important est appliqué. Cela permet d'éviter d'endommager les vis et les tournevis ou les embouts.

    • Les vis Japanese Industrial Standard (J) n'offrent pas d'option ripage (cam-out) et ont des angles de 90 degrés.

    • Les embouts de vis J (ou JIS) et PH (cruciforme) ne sont pas toujours interchangeables. Comme vous pouvez le voir, ils ne partagent pas les mêmes propriétés physiques.

    which is which? why not tag each with a label?

    Jay Heldman - Réponse

    Japanese Industrial Standard (J) screws do not provide a cam-out option, and have 90 degree corners

    Oscar -

    Does a PH bit also fit into a J screw?

    Alberto - Réponse

    Hiya, Alberto! Great question. Smaller screws found in electronics aren’t particularly durable, and using a Phillips screwdriver on a Japanese Industrial Standard screw head (or vice versa) can lead to some pretty major problems. I highly recommend using the proper screwdriver or bit to avoid stripping screws.

    Richard -

    Which one should I get in America for iPhone and laptop type repairs , PH or J?

    eliyahu Stein - Réponse

    According to JIS and ISO standard, both recess dimension seem to be the same, having a rounded corner between two flats. I think, the recess without rounded corners (as right drawing) is a recess of CIPA (older JCIS) standard. According to CIPA, the edge between two flats is R0.06mm rounded shape, which seems to be neary sharp edge. Anyway, CIPA is a Japanese Standard and used mainly for the screws of Japanese electrical instruments.

    gk3lglink - Réponse

    I have two Phillips heads, one is labelled PH.2, the other labeled SH.0.

    The second one has a very snub nose, which is what I need for the screws I need to work on. The more pointed PH one is too loose as the point doesn't allow it to fully seat into the screw head.

    A seemingly identical snub-nosed one from another set is labelled: CR-V3#, and another seeming clone as ACR-2..

    I'm having a bit of confusion on how to buy another screw bit like I need.

    Guthrie - Réponse

    I have the small screwdriver kit you make. (Forgot the name) There are J1 and PH1 drivers. However, apart from the stamped label, those two especially are identical. The J1 is as rounded as the PH1 and all angles and lengths are the same. (I looked closely with a good magnifying glass.)

    There is a very visible difference between J0 and PH0. So I assume either my PH1 or my J1 has a manufacturing error.

    ̷ ̴ ̸ɢ̸ʟ̶ɪ̸ᴛ̶ᴄ̶ʜ̷ ̶ ̶ - Réponse

    Hi @glitchglitch, email support@ifixit.com to open a ticket.

    Happy fixing!

    Amber Taus -

    Great guide, but i have a question about some other bits.

    Is there a difference between the "Tri-wing" and "Tri-Point" there are two bits available at the store both designated "Y0" or are they interchangeable

    Emerson Rosa (xXNibblesXx) - Réponse

    Definitely different! You can find some more info on that here, and there's some helpful Wikipedia info here. Absolutely go for the correct fit. The potential to strip the screw head is just too great.

    Richard -

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Excellent guide. could not figure out the difference by looking.

Lawrence Steinheuer-Turner - Réponse

It would be clearer if the displayed drawing of each bit actually said J-bit or PH-bit, and because both have 90 degree corners, maybe change the J-bit description to “have 90 degree square inside corners“ and include in the PH description “have 90 degree rounded inside corners.

Otherwise, with interpretation, your article helped me.

Phil - Réponse

what size hex shaft do these smaller bits have?. i have an electric precision screw driver, for electronics. i go through the PH1 bits very quickly. i can NOT find them for sale anywhere on earth. does anybody know where to purchase these things?? and/or tell me how i should word the query. all im getting is 1/4 hex shaft results. very frustrating

brett everett - Réponse

In the picture on the top of the page the bits with a 90° corner are marked as Phillips heads, the ones with the rounded corners are markes as JIS heads. But it seems to be the other way, as mentioned in Step 3 of this instruction, and also according to other pages like Phillips #000 Screwdriver

Andreas Brunner - Réponse

Sharp eye, Andreas! Thanks for catching that. We’ve updated the image at the top of the guide with the correct labels.

Marty Rippens -

Right on the money there! 👍

Ross McPherson -

i have just bought an ifixit kit, has some ph and j bits. I’ve looked at them under a microscope, compared angles, tried them on screws... i have found no difference whatsoever, they seem to be identical. What gives?

Victor Titov - Réponse

Hi @deepsoic, that’s a pretty interesting find you’ve made! Send an email over to our customer service team at support@ifixit.com and they’ll help you get this issue sorted.

Amber Taus -

The label indicating the drivers on the Mako 64-bit driver set is almost impossible to read (embossed black-on-black). You can print a better one from the diagram on the catalog page. See https://twitter.com/isonno/status/146455...

isonno - Réponse

I got this set as a gift and I’m very disappointed it doesn’t include larger Phillips head bits. The largest in this set is too small for a lot of the screwheads on my electronics, especially since I’ve never seen some of these screwheads in my entire life. Do you have any larger Phillips bits for sale?

Matt - Réponse

Hi, Matt! Sorry to hear that your current kit doesn't meet your needs. We do have a larger 1/4" driver kit that goes up to PH #3 (Mahi).

Richard -

Where does pozidriv (PZ) fit in. I know its not Phillips, so seem to be another bit type?

Alan - Réponse

Probeer de volgende link eens: https://shop4fasteners.co.uk/blog/pozidr...

Misschien wordt het dan duidelijker.

Toon Konings - Réponse

Il manque (cruellement) l'empreinte POZIDRIV souvent source de confusion.

Roland29 - Réponse

I think the English information about jis may be wrong and outdated. I google Japanese,旧JISネジ vs iso ,Statement from Vessel,ねじにある丸い刻印「ISOマーク」 "point"screws are rare in Japan now. "point"means new jis/ISO(only M3/4/5) , "no point" is old jis in japan in 1960', The difference is the "screw pitch". and new JIS B 4633 screws also no point. only ISO 8764. You can test pb/wiha/wera/vessle with your jis screw, it won't make a difference.

sean zhang - Réponse

What are philips #1,2 & 3 sizes? Are they different in thickness? Can Philips #1 Screwdriver be used on any Phillips screws?

Amit ghosh - Réponse

A Phillips screwdriver has a head with pointed edges in the shape of a cross, which fits neatly into the cross slots of a Phillips screw. Phillips screwdrivers are available in five different sizes, from zero to four. If you don’t use the right size, you can easily strip a Phillips screw, making it difficult to remove.

Toon Konings - Réponse

Das sagt mir nicht welcher BIt für Kreutzschlitz 2,2- 3,5 mm ich benötige. Für mich völlig wertlos. Wird jetzt ein 000.00,0,oder 1,2, gebraucht?

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