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The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated (legal issues for sites like iFixit to knowingly sell) or a Dell BMS is reset and reused (legal since it's not cloned), it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell, and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this on future machines (potentially some older models), but Dell has begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-). [link|https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-86-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/70n2f/pc-accessories|This is where you can get the "right" battery now|new_window=true]. You can get it at a slight discount from [link|https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=142&subid=1458&refine=battery|PartsPeople|new_window=true] as well.
-While Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens), the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.
+While Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens), the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them with a good CPU at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.

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-The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated or a Dell BMS is reset and reused, it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell, and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this on future machines (potentially some older models), but Dell has begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-). [link|https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-86-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/70n2f/pc-accessories|This is where you can get the "right" battery now|new_window=true]. You can get it at a slight discount from [link|https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=142&subid=1458&refine=battery|PartsPeople|new_window=true] as well.
+The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated (legal issues for sites like iFixit to knowingly sell) or a Dell BMS is reset and reused (legal since it's not cloned), it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell, and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this on future machines (potentially some older models), but Dell has begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-). [link|https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-86-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/70n2f/pc-accessories|This is where you can get the "right" battery now|new_window=true]. You can get it at a slight discount from [link|https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=142&subid=1458&refine=battery|PartsPeople|new_window=true] as well.
While Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens), the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.

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-The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated or a Dell BMS is reset and reused, it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this, but Dell has now begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-). [link|https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-86-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/70n2f/pc-accessories|This is where you can get the "right" battery now|new_window=true]. You can get it at a slight discount from [https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=142&subid=1458&refine=battery|PartsPeople|new_window=true] as well.
+The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated or a Dell BMS is reset and reused, it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell, and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this on future machines (potentially some older models), but Dell has begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-). [link|https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-86-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/70n2f/pc-accessories|This is where you can get the "right" battery now|new_window=true]. You can get it at a slight discount from [link|https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=142&subid=1458&refine=battery|PartsPeople|new_window=true] as well.
While Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens), the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.

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-The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated or a Dell BMS is reset and reused, it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this, but Dell has now begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-). [https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-86-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/70n2f/pc-accessories|This is where you can get the "right" battery now|new_window=true].
+The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated or a Dell BMS is reset and reused, it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this, but Dell has now begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-). [link|https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-86-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/70n2f/pc-accessories|This is where you can get the "right" battery now|new_window=true]. You can get it at a slight discount from [https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=142&subid=1458&refine=battery|PartsPeople|new_window=true] as well.
While Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens), the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.

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-The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated or a Dell BMS is reset and reused, it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this, but Dell has now begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-).
+The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated or a Dell BMS is reset and reused, it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this, but Dell has now begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-). [https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-6-cell-86-wh-lithium-ion-replacement-battery-for-select-laptops/apd/70n2f/pc-accessories|This is where you can get the "right" battery now|new_window=true].
While Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens), the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.

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-NOPE. They've been aggressive about it since the Sony recall in 2005 :/. Started with the E series. Custom TI battery gauge with a challenge/response code the TI chip or a reset BMS will handle. By the time it's cracked, the laptops are decrepit now. Maybe RtR will fix this, but Dell has now began to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops since :-).
+The issue here is Dell uses a custom TI battery gauge which also does a challenge/response code with the BIOS; if the response is not emulated or a Dell BMS is reset and reused, it will reject the pack. This started with the E series due to the D series 2005 Sony recall. The issue is now by the time it's cracked, the laptops are so decrepit it doesn't matter to Dell and the machines are mostly retired. Maybe RtR will fix this, but Dell has now begun to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops :-).
-Posting it as a comment as I don't feel this warrants a full answer. Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens) but the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.
+While Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens), the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.

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NOPE. They've been aggressive about it since the Sony recall in 2005 :/. Started with the E series. Custom TI battery gauge with a challenge/response code the TI chip or a reset BMS will handle. By the time it's cracked, the laptops are decrepit now. Maybe RtR will fix this, but Dell has now began to sell batteries on their site for "internal" laptops since :-).

Posting it as a comment as I don't feel this warrants a full answer. Dell doesn't vendor lock things like SSDs and RAM (even screens) but the battery IS locked down. That's why you can get a garbage spec machine from them at a healthy discount as a factory refurb and then buy the parts you really wanted like a 1TB SSD.

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